Thoughts on DNA

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I recently did my DNA and found out some surprising information. Although I don’t hold much stock in the results, especially as they can vary between calculators, I do use it to verify information I’ve received and to gather information about the general areas that my family is from.

My main break down is (in order):

Northern European (French, Scottish/Orcadian, North Norwegian, North Eastern Swedish, and North Western Russian).

Northern Finnish.

Mediterranean (primarily Greek), Ashkenazi.

(with smaller amounts of South Asian/Indian and Siberian depending on the test).

There are various different calculators available to find your “admixture”, and although results vary between each calculator, it can help in affirming suspicions about ancestry. This is the first time I’ve really sat down to compare and contrast results, as well as compile all the results in one place. One of the most useful things I’ve encountered is the ability to use the results for health analysis (we’ll get into that later!)

The first websites I’ll introduce are the more simple ones – Ancestry (original test site), FamilyTreeDNA (myFTDNA),, and MyHeritage. I also just submitted to 23andMe for my mtDNA haplogroup (but will also get their other heritage services too. Won’t get that for a few weeks still). Many of these calculators use terms broadly (such as ‘Scandinavia’ and are not technically historically (or politically) accurate, so it’s best to check what countries they are specifically referring to when they paint with such broad strokes).

Ancestry results show Scotland, Finland/NW Russia, Eastern Europe, Jewish. The categories are quite limited. I register less than <1% South or West Asian with this one.

myFTDNA results are pretty useless. 95% European (including everywhere mentioned in all the other tests, but not broken down. Was kind of a waste of $19). But, it has provided a wealth of information from my matches, including mtDNA and family tree comparisons. includes West Europe (Northern Britain, Iceland, and Norway), Finnish (only Finnish in Finland – no minority groups), and North Slavic (which I think is mostly North Western Russia). The grouping here is slightly odd to me.. but, fairly consistent with other sites (though missing any Asian).

MyHeritage  shows British and Scandinavian, but not Finnish – though I’ve read that it’s not separated beyond (the incorrect) “Scandinavian”, plus Eastern European and Baltic, and Ashkenazi Jewish, with a teeny part South Asian. It has no Northern Russian grouping.

WeGene is another analysis site. According to this site I am French, Finnish/Russian, Hungarian, and only 5% English (and small parts of Chinese (not broken down, but includes Tungusic, Udmurt, and Komi), Ashkenazi and Indian). This actually, could be the most accurate of ALL of the tests I’ve done.

Gencove: A site where you can upload results from any major test provider. This gives me similar to all the others (but on an even broader level). It has for me “Northern Europe” and “Northeast Europe”. That’s it. NO breakdown, whatsoever. But, the site also allows plug-ins with other apps (including those for heritage and health) for small sums of money. As it gives you $3 in credits, I decided to do a couple.

I did one with the “Ancestry” app and apparently a bunch of my DNA did not match with anything in their sample files. So, that really wasn’t very helpful.

I did a second test with their “Admixture K29” app and came up as 42% French, 44% Scandinavian (Norway/Sweden), 8% Belarusian/Ukrainian, 5% South Asian, and 2% Greek-Albanian.

GedMatch (and GedMatch Genesis, which is a newer beta version and lists some admixtures slightly differently) which can be a bit confusing. They have a large number of admixture tests available and all produce different results. Many are purely for ancient DNA populations or African and Asian populations. Oracle results give an indication of their reference populations who most closely share your results. I’ll give a breakdown of the top results below in order by relevant test (the test name, top admixture results and top oracle results if provided (single, mixed x2 and x4).

For more information about each calculator go here. Those not included are not applicable or were updated versions of the same test in the list. I did not list anything below 10 percent (except S. Asian/Indian which hovers between 5-15%) and anything below 5 percent is usually considered statistical “noise”:

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I’ve been writing this post for a week now. I think it’s time to just hit “post” …

I keep thinking about heritage and culture and how our DNA is as blended as our cuisine. Last year, I did my DNA for a laugh, really. I thought that it would just reinforce what I already knew. What I didn’t expect was to find out that I’m Scandinavian, Ashkenazi Jewish, and Mediterranean. A lot of what I thought I knew about my family fell apart and it was actually spurred by people telling me “You Can’t Possibly Be That”, “Your Story Doesn’t Make Sense”.

They were right.

My family sometimes told stories. Fractured, shattered shards of stories that were woven together by thin strands of memory. Just like our meals were cobbled together from foods that were one half memory and one half availability.  No one really spoke of a past though; a solid, unshakeable history and I still have to wonder why. Through DNA testing and sharing, and reconnecting with family, I have found relatives in Finland and Poland and Germany (as well as Australia/New Zealand – my maternal great grandmother’s sister (my g-great aunt??) moved there with her husband).

I have to wonder if our meals were shared with any relatives too – did we bring or take anything with us? Are we from those places or did we just pass through? We liked to eat cabbage rolls, sauerkraut, paprikas, goulas. We also chili con carne, spaghetti bolognese, boeuf bourguignon, bangers and mash, steak and kidney, liver and onions, Sunday roast. Lots of fish and seafood, smoked, dried, fried, stewed. Our diet was as varied, it seems as our history.

When I first came to the internet, I wrote like I had no story. I wrote about trying to discover where I was from. I wrote about being half this and half that. I posted limited photos of myself and most of those were deliberately washed out and badly edited (I am neither as light nor as dark as I look in some of my photos). I wrote about the links I thought we had. I didn’t want to tell my truth as I didn’t know how it would be taken, how it would unfold, what it would bring. Little did I know that these things would be unearthed eight years later and passed around.

I did have another narrative though, one given to me in scattered pieces, like broken pottery. I slowly became brave enough to share what I thought was my truth, but in trying to assemble those stories, I went monstrously wrong. I added things without explicitly sharing their origins. I clung onto snippets of a language that was not mine, like it would be the end of me if I let go. I embellished my story just to have a story. My life didn’t make sense, it was like looking through one of those kiddie kaleidoscopes but the slides were all broken.

My stories were mainly fueled by a family member (no longer living) who sent memories and photos and embellished the truth in so many ways. I found out, for whatever reason, that they firmly believed the stories they told and went to their grave believing them. They lived those stories as much as they could. Some of the photos they shared were of our family and some were not. I trusted them and I deeply regret that. I don’t know what their motives were. I do know that the truth I thought was mine, is not. That was difficult for me at first (the memories I shared about things we did together, were true – the places we went, the things we did), but there were other things that I was told, second hand, that I wove in as my own (and they turned out to be false).

When someone said to me, “your story doesn’t make sense, stop writing,” it actually came as a relief. I was feeling more and more confused and more and more alone. After their death, I had drifted away from writing for almost a year and I started my own research. I started discovering glaring holes in my past. I had begun to see through my family member’s stories and lies, but their sudden death came as a surprise (in some ways and not in others). My DNA had also thrown a huge spanner in the works as it clearly pointed to a much more checkered past than I had ever believed.

My paternal grandparents are Romani/Romanichal. My grandmother’s family is originally from Slovakia (though they came to the UK much earlier than I ever knew). Some of her family lived in Europe during WWII and some of them died in the Holocaust. My paternal grandfather is Romanichal (from the Cooper line) and is originally from the south of England. They were very poor. I was ashamed of being Romanichal (for reasons I won’t elaborate on at this time) and of them being poor and this issues surrounding that.

Someone in my family is from northern Finland , Sweden, or Russia though Finland is most likely and the relative I contacted currently lives further south, in Siikainen, Finland. Perhaps this is through my grandfather. I have yet to figure these things out. I honestly don’t even know where to begin with this one – I have some suggested names (don’t know if they’re place names or people names at this point) – including Aikio, Kemi, Seppälä, Näätsaari, Turi – but these haven’t been confirmed and I haven’t had a chance to do any research or much question-asking. But, this would explain my eye colour and shape, round face, and freckles…

Someone is Ashkenazi Jewish from Poland. I think it comes through my maternal grandmother’s line, several generations back. I don’t know much about my grandmother or grandfather, except that she scrubbed floors for a rich family (I have the census information confirming this fact – the family name she worked for and the house where she worked). I remember hearing some connection to Poland – maybe this is the link.  I originally thought they were distant Romani or Romanichal too – but this definitely disproves that theory.

I don’t hold much weight to commercial DNA tests and am basing most of my research on talking to family and genealogical resources, but they have been useful in confirming some of the information I received and in helping me find several relatives (second and third cousins in Australia, thus far). Since they are confirmed, I am comparing anyone else I come across to myself, plus these other matches. For those interested, my main DNA results are (in order of percentage):

Northern European and Scandinavian – Including Northern England, Scotland, and Norway, Sweden, and North West Russia – upper Karelia/Murmansk/Kola Peninsula, basically Fennoscandia.

Finnish from Finland (with particular markers I’ll get into in a different post).

East European (including Polish and Slovak/Czech/Austrian/Russian), Ashkenazi Jewish, and Mediterranean (Iberian Peninsula, Spain, Cyprus).

And a small percentage of South and West Asian/Indian/Middle Eastern – most likely from my Romani/Romanichal background.

Confirmed matches have mtDNA pointing mostly to the upper regions of Norway, Sweden, and Finland (particularly U5b1b1a), and Ashkenazi (any Romani markers would come through my y-DNA from my father’s side). I just tested for my own mtDNA and will update this post as that comes in.

For those interested, my full DNA breakdown will be available in another post, which I’ll crosslink here.

I guess, the point of this post is: if someone you respect tells you, “this doesn’t make sense,” listen. Don’t get offended. Don’t get angry. Listen and ask yourself, why?? Then go back and start your story over.